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10 thoughts on “Research”

1. Helen Johnson November 3, 2016 at 8:53 pm

   Hi Alison,

   I enjoyed your talk at the LDA presentation of Maryanne Wolf. I remember you showed a review of research, from memory, about Levelled Literacy Intervention showing that it does not make much of an impact. Could you please send me this link?
   I am an LDA consultant member who is doing Year One intervention in a school that has purchased all the F&P kits (against my recommendation). I have said it does not have good results and the head of English would like to see where I’ve got that idea from because she has only heard positive things!!

   Kind regards,
   Helen

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   1. alison Post authorNovember 7, 2016 at 8:07 am

      Hi Helen, I put the links to the things I was talking about at the Wolf seminar in this blog post: http://www.spelfabet.com.au/2016/09/filling-the-gaps.

      The F&P publicity all says that it’s research/evidence-based, but if you look at THEIR OWN RESEARCH (published on their website but not in a peer-reviewed journal, so whether we really call it research anyway is arguable), it found that improvements that could be attributed to the program were not statistically significant, see http://www.heinemann.com/fountasandpinnell/research/lliefficacystudyreport2012.pdf. But they bury this in a lot of verbiage explaining this away, and a lot of glossy marketing, because they know teachers are not taught how to critically evaluate research.

      All the best, Alison C

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5. Karen May 23, 2021 at 6:25 pm

   Hi Alison,
   A while back I wrote to you asking if you had heard of research that states that phonological awareness training is not effective after the age of 9. It had been a statement I saw in a student’s Cognitive Assessment report. Since then, I wrote to the the Educational Psychologist who had made the statement and he gave me the following reference for the statement:
   I believe I pulled that language from research outlined and guidance provided by the authors of the CTOPP. Do you have access to the manual for that assessment? To be 100% sure, though, I’d need to re-read the manual. It’s also possible I pulled it from the National Reading Panel reports.
   In any case, between then and now, I also obtained and read the resource ‘Essentials of Dyslexia Assessment and Intervention’ by Nancy Mather that you might be interested in. If I recall correctly, she referenced this issue but wasn’t as definitive on the point; she used slightly different language to describe the research and guidance. As a result of reading her resource on the topic, I modified that statement that I often include in my reports (where relevant) to: ‘From about age nine and up research has found that it may be more helpful to appropriate instructional time to other areas of reading development than phonological instruction (instruction focused on sound activities only).’
   Based on what I’ve read, that struck me as being more true than the first way of wording it. In my experience, people can get better with their phonological awareness (especially if provided intervention), and that would be a good thing. At the same time, though, I believe it is a fair point that some people make to emphasize phonics over phonological awareness training for older students especially if time and money are limited (which they typically are for all of my clients). I hope that helps, but please let me know if you’d like to chat further. Cheers, M

   I could not find any reference to this in the CTOPP manual however I did find this quote in the MacqLit manual:
   “It is generally accepted that the most effective time to focus on pure phonemic awareness is in the first year or two of schooling (Ehri et al, 2001). This is when phonemic awareness training has the greatest effect on the reading process. After this window of opportunity, the research indicates that phonemic awareness training as a discrete skill, and taught in isolation, has limited benefit and is best taught in the context of learning the corresponding graphemes. (Pogorzelski and Wheldall, 2002, 2005; Wheldall and Porgorzelski, 2003). ………However it is necessary to consider the nature of the reading deficit and the level of phonological awareness knowledge of individual older students when making decisions about whether to include phonological awareness practice as part of an intervention (Schuele and Boudreau, 2008, p8).
   My question is how does this compare to the propositions by David Kilpatrick that older students almost always have phoneme awareness difficulties and will continue to struggle until this difficulty is corrected and that there is no age limitation on learning phoneme awareness and reading improvement?

   I am also wondering what your thoughts are regarding synthetic phonic programs and advanced phonemic awareness. My understanding is that MacqLit only covers segmenting and blending, and only does this explicitly in the early levels of the program. Do you know of other synthetic phonic programs that incorporate instruction in advanced phonemic awareness?

   I have recommended to the secondary school that I support that students who do not make expected progress with the MacqLit program be complete the PAST and that the one minute activities are incorporated into the program. I think it would be ideal if they incorporated the activities with all the students on the program. (The students may also be referred for language assessment and more indepth assessment using the CTOPP)
   Kind Regards,
   Karen

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   1. alison Post authorMay 23, 2021 at 6:56 pm

      Hi Karen, Wow, that’s a big question. I think phonemic awareness is a biologically secondary skill, so it can be learnt at any age, but the older you get, the harder it is to learn, and to undo the habits of a weak reader (thinking about what words look like but not what they sound like, over-reliance on good oral language to compensate for poor decoding etc). I think the distinction that Kilpatrick makes between basic and advanced phonemic awareness/proficiency is relevant to the question of teaching phonemic awareness to older learners. There is very little point teaching most older learners to blend and segment words (basic PA). Most can already do that, and thus sound out words. However, they don’t remember the words because they don’t have advanced phonemic awareness/proficiency which allows for orthographic mapping. The lack of this skill is what the CTOPP-2 Elision test identifies in some kids, but as it’s an untimed test, the smart ones who can visualise letters and mentally manipulate them without thinking about sounds can still get a decent score on the CTOPP, even though they are slow at it. Their weaknesses show up more on the PAST test because it’s timed, and because the visualising-the-letters trick doesn’t work because it has items like ‘say sift, now change f to p’ with the correct answer being ‘sipped’.

      I do have a CTOPP-2 in the office so I can look back at the manual, it’s a while since I read it, so I don’t recall what it says, sorry. I try to always work on PA using letters, e.g. using a lot of word chains (here’s slip, change it to slop, change it to lop, then lip, then limp, etc) where kids must work from sound to print, and games where they have to build words. Activities of this type are used extensively in Sounds-Write, and in Phono-Graphix, they are also in Little Learners Love Literacy (not really useful for older kids), and I’ve seen them in many other synthetic phonics programs. However, there do seem to me to be some kids who WILL NOT think about sounds unless you take away the letters, and I use David K’s oral-only PA activities with them, to force them to think about sounds. I also think that teaching older kids about morphemes and how to join them is very powerful, as most long words are built with them. I hope that makes sense and covers the main things you’ve raised. Let me know if not. Alison

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7. Debra September 6, 2023 at 2:51 pm

   Hi Alison,
   we are currently looking at trying to improve spelling in our Year 3 -6. We have been using ‘SMART Spelling’ as a basis, but our mid-year review/assessment has not shown any major improvement in our students’ results. We are now questioning what we should be doing.
   We already use ‘Get Reading Right’ with our P – 2’s , which is a great synthetic phonics program.
   Do you know of a good program for spelling we could use in 3 – 6?

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   1. alison Post authorSeptember 7, 2023 at 2:22 pm

      Hi Debra, great to hear you’re using GRR, have you asked them what they suggest for older students? They know their scope and sequence better than I do and have almost certainly had other people asking about this. Spelling Mastery is an evidence-based program and Sounds-Write has a Years 3-6 course that might also be worth considering: https://sounds-write.co.uk/specialist-courses. You might also like to introduce Word Sums (see http://www.neilramsden.co.uk/microscope/introduction/sums.html) and/or use some of Jason Wade’s resources, see https://jwed.co.uk/2021/04/13/rootrepository. Morpheme Magic might also be worth a look. I guess if there is no perfect program that dovetails with GRR, you might want to mix and match resources to suit your phonics review/morphology scope and sequence.

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